tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post115584412054087298..comments2024-02-11T03:10:57.646-05:00Comments on The Art Department: Text FidelityIrene Gallohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15440976373621593153noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-91826888445089991292008-11-03T20:18:00.000-05:002008-11-03T20:18:00.000-05:00Lingerie Wholesale Lingerie China Leather/PVC Li...<A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com" REL="nofollow">Lingerie Wholesale</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Sexy-Lingerie.html" REL="nofollow">Lingerie China</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Leather-Lingerie.html" REL="nofollow">Leather/PVC Lingerie</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Christmas-costume.html" REL="nofollow">Christmas Costume</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Christmas-costume.html" REL="nofollow">Christmas Lingerie</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Wholesale" REL="nofollow">Sexy Lingerie Wholesale</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Halloween-costume.html" REL="nofollow">Halloween Costume</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Babydolls.html" REL="nofollow">Wholesale Underwear</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Bra-Panties.html" REL="nofollow">Lingerie Manufacturer</A> <A HREF="http://www.charmingirl-china.com/Sexy-uniform.html" REL="nofollow">Sexy Uniform</A>Charmingirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10211979523868038477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1156603756311455242006-08-26T10:49:00.000-04:002006-08-26T10:49:00.000-04:00Speakly strictly as a reader here, it does bug me ...Speakly strictly as a reader here, it does bug me when the text and the cover art don't line up. Patrick said the cover art isn't there to illustrate the book, but the general reading public doesn't perceive it that way, especially if the cover features a specific scene from the book, or specific characters.<BR/><BR/>Two recent examples that have bugged me mightily are the covers of Sarah Monette's most excellent <I>Melusine</I> and <I>The Virtu</I>. Both covers are portraits of characters, and both omit significant physical details. Yeah, maybe it's not crucial that Felix's eyes are two different colors, but Mildmay's scar has gone a long way towards shaping his character and his own self-image. <BR/><BR/>The artwork itself is well done, it's just ... not right.<BR/><BR/>Yes, I'm an anal customer. :)FluffyBunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14301476959457219723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1156287067393158572006-08-22T18:51:00.000-04:002006-08-22T18:51:00.000-04:00Sadly, on the Forge side it is still harder to sho...<I><BR/>Sadly, on the Forge side it is still harder to show non-caucasian peoples. We did a mystery series a while back about an African-American, female detective in New Orleans. We showed the character on the first volume or two and then I was told by Sales that that was limiting the audience.</I><BR/><BR/>Forge needs to have a long corrective chat with the people on the sales team who said that. Seriously. Anyone who can say that with a straight face is a long term hinderance to a company they work for.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07967224493245832241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1156256369251406582006-08-22T10:19:00.000-04:002006-08-22T10:19:00.000-04:00I know that "hiding" the race of a character has b...I know that "hiding" the race of a character has been a problem in the past. I'm happy to say that we haven't intentionally lied about race on a Tor book in a long time....although I'm sure we've mistakenly done it from time to time. _Usually_ we catch it as the sketch stage. I may be told that the hero is "tall, dark, and handsome" only to find out later that she/he is specifically of Indian, Middle Eastern, or African descent. <BR/><BR/>Sadly, on the Forge side it is still harder to show non-caucasian peoples. We did a mystery series a while back about an African-American, female detective in New Orleans. We showed the character on the first volume or two and then I was told by Sales that that was limiting the audience. I would have hated to be the editor that had to explain that to the author.Irene Gallohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15440976373621593153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1155911219877804422006-08-18T10:26:00.000-04:002006-08-18T10:26:00.000-04:00ebear - Actually, as I recall, Steve mainains that...ebear - Actually, as I recall, Steve mainains that the white guy on the cover helped sales, even though it wasn't what he wanted. <BR/><BR/>Also, it was great seeing you at KGB the other night. Your story was wonderfull.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07967224493245832241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1155905195644602152006-08-18T08:46:00.000-04:002006-08-18T08:46:00.000-04:00Ironically I just read a chapter of Pulp Art last ...Ironically I just read a chapter of Pulp Art last night and it does mention some of things you're saying. Magazines, like books, needed to pop out in the newstands. One publisher even had a magazine rack, complete with all of the competitors, in his office to see if his titles would catch his eye from across the office. Particular covers were used. Bullets flew out of guns instead of the guns just being in hands. There was action, vibrant colors...anything that could get the public's hard earn dime.<BR/><BR/>I guess we have that same thing today just on a more massive level. Like anything else art related we're expected to just make things happen, more and more, earlier and earlier, without those same people even realizing what goes into it. I think, to an extent, some projects pay dearly for it but they all can't be winners.<BR/><BR/>On a side note Irene, I just got my pulp intro last night. I'll send it along at some point.Anthony Schiavinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118112386664621169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1155875649704132212006-08-18T00:34:00.000-04:002006-08-18T00:34:00.000-04:00My comments have changed upon reading Josh Jasper'...My comments have changed upon reading Josh Jasper's previous thoughts. This was a great and relevant post. There is a delicate balance between accuracy and aesthetics. Neither of the two can be more important than the other. In the short term you can make sales, but in the long run your readership will not trust you if you fail to honor the text.Facetiousdudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04433018144146947002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30983073.post-1155845892646375072006-08-17T16:18:00.000-04:002006-08-17T16:18:00.000-04:00An attractive cover can be an important thing, but...An attractive cover can be an important thing, but there are occasions where, if an artist does no check up on the book, a cover can be in insult to the author.<BR/><BR/>My favorite example is Steve Barnes' book, "Street Lethal" <A HREF="http://a0.vox.com/6a00c225202715f21900c225220950f219-pi" REL="nofollow">Check it out here</A> Steve is a black man. The character on the cover, Aubury Knight is black in the book. , but not on the cover. This was in 1983. I'm hopeful that things have improved since then.Josh Jasperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07967224493245832241noreply@blogger.com